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"Initial impression - great machine for a great price" Caveat - I have only owned this machine for a couple of hours and just pulled my first couple of espresso shots. I settled for this machine after lusting after some more expensive rigs (i.e. the $600 Rancio Silvia). Espresso experts on various message boards almost convinced me that spending any less than $600 for a machine (and $300 for a grinder) was a huge mistake. I just couldn't bring myself to spend that much, so I picked up the Breville. After making a double espresso and a latte, I must say I am very satisfied with the Breville. The espresso shot looked and tasted as good as any shot that I have ordered from local restaurants. The machine is extremely easy to use and looks and feels solid as a rock. Unless you're an espresso connoisseur with an extremely refined palate, you will be very happy with this machine for all your home espresso needs. I'll update this review if I have anything to add after a few weeks of use.... "It's a winner but you may need to tamp differently" First off, despite what everyone seems to say in these reviews, the portafilter IS BRASS. It is unfortunate that they are 57mm instead of the "standard" 58mm, and it is designed to work slightly differently. This said, I made perfect espresso right out ofthe box and consistently using Illy PODS. This leads me to suspect that issues most people are reporting stems from grinds and/or tamping. Because the filter is a different size and design than normal, you have to adjust your tamping pressure from what you are used to. So experiment with it a bit and find what works (this is true for ANY new espresso machine you purchase, there is a learning curve associated with each model). Alternatively, use the PODS. Mine worked perfectly. "A MUST for any espresso lover" I've had this machine for over 6 months. It couldn't be more simple to use and I absolutely love the coffee it makes - nice foam, too! :) "Requires more Art than it should, but a good machine for its niche" This Breville 800ESXL machine has been heavily criticized by "espresso snobs" for its lack to live up to the standard of beloved espresso machines like the Rancilio Silvia. However, for over $200 less than such a machine, the Breville 800ESXL can make a pleasing espresso-based beverage, even if it does require more Art and patience in getting pleasing results. If you have the money, upgrade to the aforementioned Silvia now. Otherwise, consider this a decent machine to enjoy on your journey of coffee passion, switching to something better later on, while spending the difference you save now toward a quality burr grinder (like the Rancilio Rocky or Gaggia MDF). If you don't get a quality grinder you will need to have a patient coffee retailer, because, like all espresso making, getting the grind just right is necessary for maximum satisfaction. Frankly, with how extra fussy is this machine, you will have to try a lot of failed and sub-par pulls till you find the grind that works best. Waste is more minimal, and quality better, when you can adjust the grind yourself. With good, fresh coffee, ground and tamped well, you can get a good shot of espresso despite that others claim you can't. What you have to be prepared for is the extra practice and patience the Breville requires: * If you like a "dryer" puck and don't like to fuss with clogged baskets, you will have to grind a little courser than optimal. Usually a single shot will pull in about 14 seconds, about 10-12 seconds short of ideal. Usually crema amount is satisfactory even if a bit less rich than ideal. This less-rich pull can be a touch "thin" and bitter for a straight espresso, but will work well to make latte, iced coffee and cappuchino drinks, and desserts that will please many coffee fans. * Forget the pod basket. This machine doesn't pull satisfactory pod espresso -- too watery and bitter -- though it may be expecting too much to get a quality espresso from any pod coffee. * If you like a richer, fuller-tasting pull you need a shot that times about 25 seconds for a single shot. (About 30 for a double.) By choosing a good bean, ground well and tamped right, I've been able to pull such a shot with consistency. Unfortunately, the basket, especially the double basket, are much more prone to clog as a grind needs to be finer and tamp more firm to build the resistance required for a better pull. The included plastic tamper makes a firm, level tamp harder, too, though it can be made to work with effort and patience. Yet pucks are always soupy at this grind and tamp level. So if you are willing to put up with more fuss and mess you can pull a more yummy shot for espresso-based beverages. Even straight espresso can be quite good. This level of quality is far better than most people you serve will be accustomed. * The frother does a decent job, if a bit slower to make the liquid reach temperature than ideal, but responds best when not using the included frothing attachment. (The oft-suggested Krups Perfect Froth upgrade wand [sold separately] is even worse.) Attachments make foam that is often too bubbly rather than dense. Using the frothing wand alone, placed just under the surface of ice-cold skim milk you can create a microfoam that is quite pleasing, and you can control volume more easily. Then as foam reaches level desired, plunge the wand to "cyclone" the milk till final temp is reached. It will take some practice and splatters to get down the technique, but if you do you'll be much more pleased with the results than Breville's stock frothing attachment. Plus, if you like scrumptious hot chocolates or chai teas this machine is far above the performance of cheaper frothing machines. Therefore, if you like easier clean-up you will not get the machine's best pulls, though they still can be quite enjoyable for many. To get the best pulls you will be annoyed by the fairly regular clogs and splattering, soupy coffee grounds when you remove the group head. Water will always be more wasted with this machine than others, but won't be a problem if you have your own water filtering system. (Too wasteful to recommend bottled water.) A double pull never pulls evenly from both spouts, so be prepared to jog around your espresso cups mid pull. To be sure, there are less temperamental (if more expensive) and higher quality choices out there. But with practice and patience, I think the Breville 800ESXL can perform rather admirably for its price niche. And it's design is lovely as a bonus. After seven months and hundreds of shots, I'm pleased with the 800ESXL's performance for its price -- though next time I will splurge for a Rancilio or a "prosumer" level of machine. "Works Great!" I bought this on sale at about $350. That's a lot of money in my world, but after going through 3 machines in the last few years, I decided I'd try to find something of better quality. I wasn't disappointed. This machine may not live up to the expectations of people who are used to machines that cost $700 (or even thousands) but if you're used to the cheapie $100 machines, this is like a a Ferrari! It makes surprisingly good espresso, and can almost instantly go to frothing. There's no waiting for the thing to warm up - with my previous machines I actually had to warm the milk in the microwave before frothing. Not here. Pump out the espresso then steam the milk. In about 3 minutes total, you're drinking a fantastic latte or mocha. The pump is very powerful also. I've had other machines that easily plugged up (with supposed 15 bar pumps), but I don't see that being a problem with this one. I've been using it for about a month now and I have zero complaints. The top warmer takes a while to warm up, so if you like your cups warm then let it sit for 10 or 15 minutes before making coffee.
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Breville 800ESXL Commercial 15-Bar Triple-Priming Die-Cast Espresso Machine
Why I buy this one ? - Espresso machine with ThermoBlock heating system and 15-bar Triple Prime pump - Durable stainless-steel housing; selector dial for espresso, steam, or hot water - 4-1/2-inch cup clearance; swivel steam wand with frother; 75-ounce removable water tank - Filters, tamping tool, cleaning tool, and stainless-steel frothing pitcher included - Measures 12 by 10 by 12-1/2 inches; 1-year warranty It's better to buy this one too...
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What our customer's say! "Best Ever", I worked with Industrial Espresso machines for several years, I wanted one for myself at home. The "Breville" tops any industrial one out there!!! This is simply the best espresso machine and so easy to use. Thank You, Patricia S. "Bad reviews are off the mark", I bought this after reading many reviews of many machines. In the end I decided to go with what I know: My parents already own an earlier model of this machine and it's worked beautifully for years. And now mine does, too. This machine makes great espresso and frothed/steamed milk and is worth the price. Some reviewers have complained about the clogging, but that is their fault for grinding the coffee too powdery and probably not cleaning out the holders. If the holders do get clogged, the machine comes with a fine needle-point tool that cleans out the filter in a snap. I've only had to do this once in all the years my parents and I have owned our machines. "Stay far far away", If I could give negative stars I would. Not only does it pull mediocre espresso, I have gone through two machines in two years. Both with the same problem, it won't turn on. What a Joke for $400 a pop. "Breville Triple Espresso", It's the first time I have bought an item like this. So I guess my opinion would not count as much. But so far am impressed and hopes it gives me my monies worth. "Looks Great but Clogs too often for me", I had this unit for over 2 months and used it almost daily. I'm not a coffee snob and I found the espresso it produced to be fine for my needs. What I found problematic was the errant coffee granule that would block that tiny hole in the portafilter even after I cleaned the portafilter and poked and poked that tiny little hole in the filter basket with the needle tool supplied with the unit for that express purpose. The mess that was created when trying to pull a shot and nothing would come out got to be too much for me even though it was infrequent, By the way,I am fully familiar with the grind level and tamping needed to make this unit perform as was intended by the manufacturer. So I returned it and was fortunate to get the second to last in stock Gaggia Classic here at Amazon. Wow!, What a difference. Better taste, better crema, tons of micro foam and no wet puck or clogged porta filter. 
Read this reviews before You buy... "Great for perfect hot chocolate too!", This may be useless to most as I do not like anything with even the slightest coffee taste, but I was on a quest to make the best hot chocolate I could find, which required a steamer/frother. I got a cheap Capresso cappuccino maker first, it was OK but did not provide enough froth. I used it a few weeks then gave it away and bought this one. I absolutely love everything about it! It looks great on the counter top, is much quieter than I expected, and very easy to clean. And using a blend of (one tsp each) dark chocolate, milk chocolate and sugar, this makes the most perfect cup of hot chocolate one can get at home. Bonus: my hubby prefers coffee, but I have learned a few tricks with this machine to make a brew to suit his taste, so he doesn't have to buy Starbucks every day and we are both happy. The only down side is my 10 year old daughter and I have become so spoiled we can no longer enjoy a cup of hot chocolate at a diner. "LOVE IT!", I looked around at espresso machines and did a lot of research before purchasing one. I knew that it was very important to have a machine that was pump driven...the more bars the better. 15 bars is usually the standard it seems after looking at so many. What I love most about this, besides the fact that it brews a great shot of espresso is that fact that the steam wand has a wide range of motion (moves in every angle) but it also allows you to choose between steam or hot water. I LOVE this feature. It works great if you are making an Americano (espresso and hot water) or if you are simply making tea. It also gives you the option to pull single shot, double shot or use the pods. I looked at some of the other pod espresso machines but didn't like the idea that you were stuck with pods only. This gives you the option of either or. Love Love Love this espresso machine. I would recommend to anyone looking for a great espresso machine and is willing to drop a few $$. "Tricky but Excellent", It is absolutely critical with this machine that you find the right beans, the right grind setting, apply the right tamping pressure, and follow the instructions that came with the machine. If you don't, you'll wonder how you could have wasted several hundred dollars on this appliance. If you DO, though, you'll wonder how you could have wasted so much money at coffee houses when you could have been getting the same quality at home. The pump is strong, so you need a very fine grind. With a grind that's too coarse, no amount of tamping pressure will get you in the ideal time "zone" for a great shot of espresso with this machine. I recommend getting a better tamper than what's included with the Breville. I like the Reg Barber tampers. (FYI, your tamper needs to have a 51-millimeter base.) With some practice and consistency of technique, this machine produces consistently excellent, commercial-quality drinks. It's picky, though: slip up on your technique even once, and you'll know it immediately with the first sip. "This Machine is Fun!", This machine is fun! This is my first espresso machine and I considered many others before I bought it. Other, more expensive machines may be as good or even better, but for under $400 I am very pleased! It is a solidly built and beautifully designed machine, and makes great coffee! "The Best Expresso Maker for the Price", The Breville 800 ESXL is turning out to be one of the best buys I have ever madeBreville 800ESXL Commercial 15-Bar Triple-Priming Die-Cast Espresso Machine. I had a Gaggia that produced great espresso when I first got it, but recently, it stopped creating any crema whatsoever. Water leaked from the steamer wand and the expresso head. It was time for a replacement. I studied and studied and studied all the expresso makers and I knew I did not want to spend over $500 for a good pot. My goal was to find a great pot for under that amount. I read every review there is on the internet concerning the Breville 800 ESXL. People love it or hate it but if you read carefully, you may find as I did, that many of those who hate it, did not follow the directions as prescribed by Breville. They treated it like their old pot, however, the Breville 800 is a wonderful pot if used according to the instructions put out by Breville. And dare I say, that some of the others who did not like the pot sounded like coffee snobs who want perfection and had no right buying this machine and judging by standards that only a much more expensive machine could match. If you want a truly outstanding expresso or cappuccino, the Breville 800 will do it for you, as long as you live up to your part of the bargain. The first thing you need are really good beans and fresh filtered water. Next is to really learn how to make expresso. You need to find the right grind and then stick with it. I have a Capresso Burr Grinder that works great for only $85. You need to learn the right amount of pressure to tamp the coffee (also, it does not hurt purchase a good metal tamp- the one they give you is only okay). You should get a thermometer to make sure your frothed milk is between 140 - 160 degrees and then learn how to froth milk. The cups should be warm and you will have some great coffee. you may not get great coffee the first time out--- and maybe not the second, but the more you do it, critique what you did, and make adjustments, you will find that the difference between and excellent cup and a good cup has more to do with you than the machine. This is a hands-on machine (which I love about it). Like a cook using fresh ingredients, the results often lie in the art of the cook. It is the same with this machine. If you just want to turn it on and get a great cup of espresso, it may happen sometimes, but not always. It is up to you to make your shot the best. There is a learning curve to be sure, but the end result is fantastic - and for a great price. I was making great shot after great shot in about three days. I was scared to death about my filters clogging as others have said, but I have found that the best thing you can do is to clean after every shot. it is not a big job to wipe down the nozzle, rinse out the pots and filters, and take the little tool they give you to keep the filters open and poke the hole once to keep it open for the next time. Takes all of a minute- maybe less. The result, great expresso, perfect crema, great frothed milk (once you acquire the knack of rothing), and a beautiful, sturdy machine that should last a long time with the kind of care I ask you to give it. Some have complained about the temperature of the coffee. I too thought it was not hot enough the first few times I made the espresso, and then I read the manual. When you do what the manual says, the coffee is plenty hot --too hot actually. As for the time it takes to steam the milk, no longer than my Gaggia with a lot less mess. And about the "sloppy mess in the portafilter" and no dry puck ---- well, I would like a dry puck too, but the paper from Breville in the box tells you that the technology they use to get the coffee hot and with perfect crema will not give you the traditional dry puck. Expect it to be watery in the portafilter. just rinse it out when done and you are in business. I accept that and as a result I get great coffee. My machine is not a Rencilio, nor a Gaggia. It is a Breville and it does not have the dry puck--- but it does have great espresso that can be made within a minute or two of turning on the machine. And clean up takes less time than it did to heat up (under a minute). It has a large well for water which is easy to fill, from the front and the back. it is very very easy to clean. It is sturdy and it looks great. There are so many cool things built in --- obviously thought went into the design. Some complain about it being loud. I have never met an espresso maker that is not loud. Oh yes, I saw one once but that machine cost $2,000 and was fully automatic. There was no joy in making an expresso with that---- no art to it. The machine does it all. Now, for the weaknesses. I already told you to get another tamp. The one they give is not the greatest. Also, it has the very cool feature where it purges itself after each shot or steaming allowing the built up steam to flow to the overflow reservoir. (Actually this is a positive feature) but on the negative side it uses more water, but no big deal unless you are paying for bottled water. With my Gaggia, I was always afraid it was going to blow up on me. This steam pressure release is very cool and well thought out. Needless to say, I am very happy with this machine. As you may be able to see, I am the kind of person who looks at what I have done and tries to make the next one better. For me, this machine does not disappoint. Hopefully, this review has helped. |
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